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| name        = Рат и мир
| name        = Рат и мир
| type        = studio
| type        = studio
| artist      = [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја Мали Книнџа]]
| artist      = [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја–Мали Книнџа]]
| cover        = Rat i mir cropped cover.jpeg
| cover        = Rat i mir cropped cover.jpeg
| caption      = First Edition SuperTon Cover
| caption      = First Edition SuperTon Cover
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| length      = {{Duration|m=25|s=0}}
| length      = {{Duration|m=25|s=0}}
| label        = [[SuperTon]]
| label        = [[SuperTon]]
| prev_title  = [[Još se ništa ne zna (Album)|Још се ништа не зна]]
| producer    = [[Cvetin Todorović|Цветин Тодоровић]]
| prev_title  = [[Još se ništa ne zna|Још се ништа не зна]]
| prev_year    = 1993
| prev_year    = 1993
| next_title  = [[Kockar bez sreće (Album)|Коцкар без среће]]
| next_title  = [[Kockar bez sreće|Коцкар без среће]]
| next_year    = 1993
| next_year    = 1993
}}
}}
'''''Rat i mir''''' (Serbian Cyrillic: ''Рат и мир'', <small>lit.</small> "War and Peace") is the fifth studio album by Serb war singer [[Baja Mali Knindža]], released in late 1993 by [[SuperTon]]. It was released along side ''[[Kockar bez sreće]]'' and is accompanied by [[Orkestar Pravoslavci]]. It contains themes that were topical at its time of release such as hyperinflation, the state of Serb politics, and hardships endured during wartime. 


'''Rat i mir''' (Serbian Cyrillic: Рат и мир, lit. "War and Peace") is the fifth studio album by Serb war singer
==Background==
 
[[Baja Mali Knindža]], released in late 1993 by [[SuperTon]]. It was released along side "[[Kockar bez sreće (Album)|Kockar bez sreće]]" and is accompanied by [[Orkestar Pravoslavci]]. The album features one of Baja's most famous songs, "[[Tata (Song)|Tata]]".
 
== Background ==
[TBA]
[TBA]


== Release ==
==Release==
Sometime in late 1993 SuperTon released two Baja albums, ''Rat i mir'' and [[Kockar bez sreće (Album)|Kockar bez sreće]]. ''Rat i mir'' being the first one of the double release, it, unlike Kockar bez sreće, features patriotic songs.  
Sometime in late 1993 SuperTon released two Baja albums simultaneously, ''Rat i mir'' and [[Kockar bez sreće|''Kockar bez sreće'']] with the former composed of patriotic songs and the latter composed of love songs. Following the release of the album, the song "[[Grešnik (Song|Grešnik]]" would peak at no. 4 in the music charts in 1994.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20230707204754/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OoQSog04ts Baja Mali Knindza - Gresnik]. Archived from [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OoQSog04ts the original] on 7 July 2023.</ref>[[File:1993 Superton Catalog Sabor.jpeg|thumb|"Happy new year 1994 wishes you SuperTon & Baja Mali Knindža". ([[Sabor]] December 1993)|left]]Compared to the albums that came before it, ''Rat i mir'' would be more grounded in its theming as it is a contemporary look into the state of wartime Yugoslavia. It would still include songs to boost morale such as "[[Đedo (Song)|Đedo]]" and "[[Jovo (Song|Jovo]]". The song "[[Dražo (Song|Dražo]]" originally appeared in the [[Boro Srbin]] album ''[[Ja sam Srbin (Album)|Ja sam Srbin]].'' Released prior to ''Rat i mir'', it was titled "Ustani čiča Dražo" and reused elements of the Baja song "Kad sam bio mali." "[[Dražo (Song|Dražo]]" would have a complete overhaul stylistically, though its lyrics would remain the same. The song "[[Đedo (Song)|Đedo]]" would be covered by Lepi Mića in the 1994 album ''Gdje cvjetaju božuri'' and would be renamed to "Stari četnik".  
 
The Album would feature day to day topics like the hyperinflation of the Yugoslav dinar in [[Diler (Song)|Diler]] or the general hardships of war in [[Grešnik (Song)|Grešnik]], [[Dražo (Song)|Dražo]] about the chaotic Serb politics at the time and [[Tata (Song)|Tata]] satirizing the anti-Serb sentiments prominent in western media.  


[[Tata (Song)|Tata]] would gain a lot of popularity in recent times due to the "My dad is a war criminal" meme and turn its original message to one of unironic glorification of war crimes.
Shortly after in 1994, SuperTon would release a [[Rat i mir (VHS)|VHS of the same name]] which featured music videos for many of the songs in the album. The same year the [[RTVJ]] compilation [[Koktel srpskih pevača|''Koktel srpskih pevača'']] and would feature three songs from the album, "[[Grešnik (Song|Grešnik]]", "[[Dražo (Song|Dražo]]" and "[[Jovo (Song|Jovo]]". Despite implications of an RTVJ release of ''Rat i mir,'' a copy has yet to surface''.''


Shortly after in 1994 there would also be a [[Rat i mir (VHS)|VHS of the same name]] which included music videos for many of the songs. The same year the [[RTVJ]] compilation "[[Koktel srpskih pevača]]" would feature three songs from the album, [[Grešnik (Song|Grešnik]], [[Dražo (Song|Dražo]] and [[Jovo (Song|Jovo]], which suggests a possible RTVJ release of ''Rat i mir.''
In 2015, [[SuperTon]] would upload the album to YouTube and various other streaming platforms for the first time. It would be reuploaded along with other albums in their catalog and redistributed to streaming services in 2020.


SuperTon uploaded the album to YouTube and various other streaming platforms for the first time in 2015. 5 years later in 2020 it got reuploaded together together with a lot of other albums and redistributed to streaming services.
In modern times, "[[Tata (Song)|Tata]]" would gain infamy on the internet as it was used for the meme "My dad is a war criminal". As a result, its original message changed from making fun of war propaganda to condoning the act of committing war crimes.  


== Track listing ==
==Track listing==
All tracks are written by [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја – Мали Книнџа]]
All tracks are written by [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја – Мали Книнџа]] except where noted.
{{Track listing
{{Track listing
| headline = Side A
| headline = Side A
| title1 = Дилер
| title1 = [[Diler|Дилер]]
| length1 = 2:40
| length1 = 2:40
| title2 = Затвор
| title2 = [[Zatvor|Затвор]]
| length2 = 4:05
| length2 = 4:05
| title3 = Тата
| title3 = [[Tata|Тата]]
| length3 = 2:30
| length3 = 2:30
| title4 = Ђедо
| title4 = [[Đedo|Ђедо]]
| length4 = 3:10
| length4 = 3:10
| lyrics4 = [[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]]
| lyrics4 = [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја Мали - Книнџа]], [[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]]
}}{{Track listing
}}{{Track listing
| headline = Side B
| headline = Side B
| title1 = Гаврило
| title1 = [[Gavrilo|Гаврило]]
| length1 = 3:25
| length1 = 3:25
| title2 = Дражо
| title2 = [[Dražo|Дражо]]
| length2 = 3:30
| length2 = 3:30
| title3 = Јово
| title3 = [[Jovo|Јово]]
| length3 = 2:45
| length3 = 2:45
| lyrics3 = [[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]]
| lyrics3 = [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја Мали - Книнџа]], [[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]]
| title4 = Грешник
| title4 = [[Grešnik|Грешник]]
| length4 = 2:55
| length4 = 2:55
| lyrics4 = [[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]]
| lyrics4 = [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја Мали - Книнџа]], [[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]]
| total_length = 20:00
| total_length = 25:00
}}
}}


== Personnel ==
==Personnel==


==== Writing ====
====Writing====


* [[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја – Мали Книнџа]] - Музика и текстови (Music and Lyrics)
*[[Baja Mali Knindža|Баја – Мали Книнџа]] - Музика и текстови (Music and Lyrics)
* [[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]] - Текст – Грешник, Ђедо, Јово (Lyrics)
*[[Lazo Pajčin|Лазо Пајчин – Жељо]] - Текст – Грешник, Ђедо, Јово (Lyrics)
* [[Goran Radinović|Горан Радиновић]] - Аранжмани (Arrangements)
*[[Goran Radinović|Горан Радиновић]] - Аранжмани (Arrangements)


==== Production ====
====Production====


* [[Cvetin Todorović|Цветин Тодоровић]] - Продуцент (Producer), Директор (Director), Главни и одговорни уредник (Editor in chief)
*[[Cvetin Todorović|Цветин Тодоровић]] - Продуцент (Producer), Директор (Director), Главни и одговорни уредник (Editor in chief)
* Маша и Неђка - Извршни продуценти (Executive producers)
* Маша и Неђка - Извршни продуценти (Executive producers)
* Феки - Фото (Photography)
*Феки - Фото (Photography)


==== Miscellaneous ====
====Miscellaneous====
Морална подршка – Котобања, Монца, Дворац, Делије, Личка Капа, Витловка и Нож.
Морална подршка – Котобања, Монца, Дворац, Делије, Личка Капа, Витловка и Нож.


Да би био оно што сам данас много су заслужили: Зоран Паунковић, Љубиша, Исус, Милорад Јовић, Воја, Трандафировић, Миле Алимпиш и један Жељко
Да би био оно што сам данас много су заслужили: Зоран Паунковић, Љубиша, Исус, Милорад Јовић, Воја, Трандафировић, Миле Алимпиш и један Жељко


== Variants ==
==Variants==
{{Multiple image
{{Multiple image
| image1            = Rat i mir cover full.jpeg
| image1            = Rat i mir cover full.jpeg
| image2            = Rat i mir back.jpeg
| image2            = Rat i mir back.jpeg
| align            = left
| align            = none
| image3            = Rat i mir cassette side a.jpeg
| image3            = Rat i mir cassette side a.jpeg
| image4            = Rat i mir cassette side b.jpeg
| image4            = Rat i mir cassette side b.jpeg
| total_width      = 800
| total_width      = 800
| header            = First Release by SuperTon in 1993
| header            = 1993 SuperTon First Release
| footer            = Notes:
*Generally high audio quality
*Numbered release
*Known numbers: 01204, 01219, 01428, 04458, 09132
*SuperTon stamp
*Late 1993
}}
}}
{{Multiple image
{{Multiple image
| total_width      = 800
| total_width      = 800
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| image4            = Baja-Mali-Knindža-Rat-I-MirSideB.jpg
| image4            = Baja-Mali-Knindža-Rat-I-MirSideB.jpg
| image3            = Baja-Mali-Knindža-Rat-I-MirSideA.jpg
| image3            = Baja-Mali-Knindža-Rat-I-MirSideA.jpg
| align            = left
| align            = none
| header            = 1994 SuperTon Rerelease
| header            = 1994 SuperTon Rerelease
}}
| footer            = Notes:
<br />
*Low audio quality
* Generally high audio quality
* Numbered release
* Known numbers: 01204, 01219, 01428, 04458, 09132
* SuperTon stamp
* Late 1993
<br />
<br />
* Generally high audio quality
*Unnumbered Rerelease
*Unnumbered Rerelease
*No SuperTon stamp
*No SuperTon stamp
*sometime in 1994
*Sometime in 1994
*Cassette label has the same design as a 1994 edition of [[Braća sa Dinare (Album)|Braća sa Dinare]] and resembles the early 1995 SuperTon design
}}
 
==Gallery==
<gallery perrow="4">
File:Sabor-cover-Baja.png|Picture from ''Rat i mir'' photoshoot used as a cover image for Sabor. (13 September 1993)
File:RatIMir-Photoshoot-Informer.jpeg|Picture from the same photoshoot as the front cover. (via Informer.rs)
File:Kotobanja-Prošlisumivozovi.png|Kotobanja, a place listed as a source of moral support, is seen in the music video for the ''[[Kockar bez sreće]]'' song "Prošli su mi vozovi".
</gallery>


==References==
<references />
[[Category:Albums]]
[[Category:Albums]]

Latest revision as of 00:30, 2 February 2024

Рат и мир
Rat i mir cropped cover.jpeg
First Edition SuperTon Cover
Studio album by
Баја–Мали Книнџа
Released1993
GenreNovokompovana
Length25:00
LabelSuperTon
ProducerЦветин Тодоровић
Баја–Мали Книнџа chronology
Још се ништа не зна
(1993) 		Рат и мир
(1993) 		Коцкар без среће
(1993)

Rat i mir (Serbian Cyrillic: Рат и мир, lit. "War and Peace") is the fifth studio album by Serb war singer Baja Mali Knindža, released in late 1993 by SuperTon. It was released along side Kockar bez sreće and is accompanied by Orkestar Pravoslavci. It contains themes that were topical at its time of release such as hyperinflation, the state of Serb politics, and hardships endured during wartime.

Background

[TBA]

Release

Sometime in late 1993 SuperTon released two Baja albums simultaneously, Rat i mir and Kockar bez sreće with the former composed of patriotic songs and the latter composed of love songs. Following the release of the album, the song "Grešnik" would peak at no. 4 in the music charts in 1994.[1]

"Happy new year 1994 wishes you SuperTon & Baja Mali Knindža". (Sabor December 1993)

Compared to the albums that came before it, Rat i mir would be more grounded in its theming as it is a contemporary look into the state of wartime Yugoslavia. It would still include songs to boost morale such as "Đedo" and "Jovo". The song "Dražo" originally appeared in the Boro Srbin album Ja sam Srbin. Released prior to Rat i mir, it was titled "Ustani čiča Dražo" and reused elements of the Baja song "Kad sam bio mali." "Dražo" would have a complete overhaul stylistically, though its lyrics would remain the same. The song "Đedo" would be covered by Lepi Mića in the 1994 album Gdje cvjetaju božuri and would be renamed to "Stari četnik".

Shortly after in 1994, SuperTon would release a VHS of the same name which featured music videos for many of the songs in the album. The same year the RTVJ compilation Koktel srpskih pevača and would feature three songs from the album, "Grešnik", "Dražo" and "Jovo". Despite implications of an RTVJ release of Rat i mir, a copy has yet to surface.

In 2015, SuperTon would upload the album to YouTube and various other streaming platforms for the first time. It would be reuploaded along with other albums in their catalog and redistributed to streaming services in 2020.

In modern times, "Tata" would gain infamy on the internet as it was used for the meme "My dad is a war criminal". As a result, its original message changed from making fun of war propaganda to condoning the act of committing war crimes.

Track listing

All tracks are written by Баја – Мали Книнџа except where noted.

Side A
No.TitleLyricsLength
1."Дилер" 2:40
2."Затвор" 4:05
3."Тата" 2:30
4."Ђедо"Баја Мали - Книнџа, Лазо Пајчин – Жељо3:10
Side B
No.TitleLyricsLength
1."Гаврило" 3:25
2."Дражо" 3:30
3."Јово"Баја Мали - Книнџа, Лазо Пајчин – Жељо2:45
4."Грешник"Баја Мали - Книнџа, Лазо Пајчин – Жељо2:55
Total length:25:00

Personnel

Writing

Production

  • Цветин Тодоровић - Продуцент (Producer), Директор (Director), Главни и одговорни уредник (Editor in chief)
  • Маша и Неђка - Извршни продуценти (Executive producers)
  • Феки - Фото (Photography)

Miscellaneous

Морална подршка – Котобања, Монца, Дворац, Делије, Личка Капа, Витловка и Нож.

Да би био оно што сам данас много су заслужили: Зоран Паунковић, Љубиша, Исус, Милорад Јовић, Воја, Трандафировић, Миле Алимпиш и један Жељко

Variants

1993 SuperTon First Release
Notes:
  • Generally high audio quality
  • Numbered release
  • Known numbers: 01204, 01219, 01428, 04458, 09132
  • SuperTon stamp
  • Late 1993
1994 SuperTon Rerelease
Notes:
  • Low audio quality
  • Unnumbered Rerelease
  • No SuperTon stamp
  • Sometime in 1994
  • Cassette label has the same design as a 1994 edition of Braća sa Dinare and resembles the early 1995 SuperTon design

Gallery

  • Picture from Rat i mir photoshoot used as a cover image for Sabor. (13 September 1993)

    Picture from Rat i mir photoshoot used as a cover image for Sabor. (13 September 1993)

  • Picture from the same photoshoot as the front cover. (via Informer.rs)

    Picture from the same photoshoot as the front cover. (via Informer.rs)

  • Kotobanja, a place listed as a source of moral support, is seen in the music video for the Kockar bez sreće song "Prošli su mi vozovi".

    Kotobanja, a place listed as a source of moral support, is seen in the music video for the Kockar bez sreće song "Prošli su mi vozovi".

References

  1. ↑ Baja Mali Knindza - Gresnik. Archived from the original on 7 July 2023.
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